Entrepreneur School

Perfectionism. Productivity guilt. Rest as a reward (only after you’re totally burned out). Sound familiar?

This week I’m joined by the incredible Mindi Huebner—a certified clinical hypnotherapist, NLP practitioner, and subconscious success alchemist. She guides high-achieving women to rewire their subconscious so their success feels spacious, embodied, and rooted in self-trust—not urgency.

This conversation is all about letting go of hustle culture. Mindi shares her personal journey of breaking up with the belief that “rest is lazy” and walks us through how subconscious identity drives 95% of our actions. We unpack how to start noticing your “achievement attachment,” how to define success in your season, and why it’s time to build your business with both ambition and authenticity.

Tune in to hear:

  • How your subconscious identity is shaping your business habits
  • What “achievement attachment” looks like (and why it leads to burnout)
  • Why redefining success by season is crucial
  • How to rewire limiting beliefs without hitting rock bottom first
  • The brain science behind why hustle feels safer than rest
  • What aligned hustle really looks like (and how to spot it)

>>MEET MINDI<<

Mindi Huebner is a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, NLP Practitioner, and creator of the 24 Karat Success Framework. She’s the host of the “Unlock Your 24 Karat Success” private podcast and a go-to mentor for ambitious women ready to ditch perfection and step into identity-led success.

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Transcript
Mindi Huebner:

Rest is lazy. This was my mantra. This was the song of my people, right? This is the song of people attached to achievement. Rest is lazy because success requires constant hustle.

Kelly Sinclair:

This is the entrepreneur school podcast where we believe you can run a thriving business and still make your family a priority. This show is all about supporting you, the emerging or early stage entrepreneur, on your journey from solopreneur to CEO while wearing all of the other hats in your life. My name is Kelly Sinclair, and I'm a brand and market. Marketing strategist who started a business with two kids under three. I'm a corporate PR girl turned entrepreneur after I learned the hard way that life is too short to waste doing things that burn you out on this show, you'll hear inspiring stories from other business owners on their journey and learn strategies to help you grow a profitable business while making it all fit into the life that you want. Welcome to entrepreneur School.

Kelly Sinclair:

Welcome back to entrepreneur school. I like you to meet my amazing guest today, Mindi Huebner, she is the subconscious success Alchemist who helps high achieving women ditch the exhausting chase for perfection and discover identity led success. A certified clinical hypnotherapist and NLP practitioner. She's the creator of the 24 carat success framework, and has appeared on over 200 podcasts, summits and stages. Her secret sauce is all about guiding women to rewire their subconscious so achievements feel spacious, embodied and rooted in self, trust, not urgency. I really feel like we need to underline that statement right there. So this conversation is going to be perfect for anyone who is craving clarity, freedom and ease in the hustle, thank you so much for taking the time to be with me today. Mindi.

Mindi Huebner:

Oh, thank you for having me here. And it feels like everyone listening get to take a giant breath in and release.

Kelly Sinclair:

I love that. Every time i i have the calm app, and I've been like, using it religiously for like, probably eight years, but every time you open it, it's just like, take a deep breath. And I'm like, every time somebody tells me that, or I hear that, or I see somebody, take a deep breath, I take a deep breath. And man, does it make a difference. We just don't even realize that. Like, for some people, that was the deepest breath they took all day, you know, like, we just go along and breathe shallow and just go, go, go, hustle. Yeah, we deserve that moment to come back to presence. Yeah. I mean, I've had conversations like this on the podcast, and it's been definitely part of, you know, the whole entrepreneur journey for myself as well, redefining success is specifically like the programming, the like corporate and societal, like you're supposed to do this step and then this step and then achieve this. Like, actually, this just makes me think of a funny story when I was first working in, like, probably my first job post graduating from my PR degree, my boss was kind of a goofy guy, and he made up these, like, you know, Fauci awards for our team, and he gave me the award for most life events in one year. Like, yep, that's how I rolled right off the get go, you know, it's like, let's get engaged and buy a house and plan a wedding and get a dog and, like, whatever, probably five or I graduated university that year. Like, like, you know, because that's how we kind of are told to proceed in life. And then you get into, you know, if you decide to do entrepreneurship, whether as a detour from corporate career path, or, you know, initially, all of a sudden, there's less like guidelines, and you're like, now I'm swimming and I don't know what to do. So we're going to unpack all this.

Mindi Huebner:

Yes, yes, we are. Because what's running behind the scenes and all that is your subconscious programming, your subconscious conditioning. And your subconscious, for those that don't know, runs 95% of what you do, and your conscious brain, the one where you're like, Oh, I think I'll do this. I think I'll do that. I'll write down this goal that is 5% so literally, think the ant and the elephant, which is also a book that I did not write, but I recommend, when you are trying to out hustle or out muscle or outperform your subconscious identity, that's what you're coming up against. So this conversation, we are going to lead people to some amazing breakthrough. Moments of, oh, aligning my subconscious with my conscious brain mind is how I get to operate, to be fully in my power, authentically myself, and release that tension and step into self trust.

Kelly Sinclair:

Well, maybe like, let's set the scene first for a little bit of the like, identifiers of how to know that you call this achievement attachment, right? How to know that you're like, operating in that place, like, what are some of the signals for people?

Mindi Huebner:

Yeah, I'll start with my very own story, because it took a major career loss for me to teach me the power of rest, alignment and that self trust, that authenticity. It about 10 or 15 years ago, I hit a significant crossroads in my career. For over 17 years, I was part of a sales team I led. I trained nationally, consistently earning like top selling awards. My work even allowed me to build a dream home like do things that we would have never done, by all accounts, right? My husband and I, the hustle couple living the dream. My company went through several restructures, and then my division closed, and while most people would have been devastated, and I was for about two seconds, I also remember feeling this like wild sense of relief. I'm incredibly loyal to a fault. I needed the hustle to quit me first so that I could recognize, oh, I have been carrying around this belief, this subconscious programming, that rest is lazy and success. I'm gonna pause like, if you guys could see Kelly, if you could see Kelly's face, rest is lazy. This was like, this was my mantra. This was the song of my people, right? This is the song of people attached to achievement. Rest is lazy, because success requires constant hustle. Yeah, like, that's it. You have to constantly be hustling, or you're not worthy, you're not valuable. Your production is your worth and value every time you achieve, then you're worthy, then you're valuable. And this is all BS and conditioning that most of us didn't like. Someone didn't actually say these words to us. Now that does happen too. This is our filtering system. This is how we take things in, the things that we've experienced, what we saw other people doing. Both my parents worked a lot. I don't think any either one of them ever said rest was lazy to me, and this was what I came to. And what did I do? Married a dude who thought the same thing. So we were always go, go, go. So much that sitting on the couch like I felt guilty about sitting on the couch, it took that my division closing for the first time in two decades, to give myself permission to step back. I took a pause from working for myself. Even went and managed some other people's businesses and then said, Whoa, I'm an entrepreneur for a reason. I don't like somebody else's timeline on me. And in that time, dove into all things neuroscience and brain based habits and subconscious development and personal development, and collected certifications like they are going out of style, because I want all the tools in my toolbox to use on myself and then now to use on my clients. So health coaching, success coaching, life coaching, EFT, like all the things that you can imagine, so that having the laserdin thing to help myself and support high achieving women is right at my disposal. And the moment I released that limiting belief, the moment I recognized what this was doing to me, energetically, mentally, physically, emotionally, was the moment I knew that it was also my job to champion women and allow them to experience what it gets to feel like, to lead from self trust, to lay down the tension, to lay down the pressure, to prove

Kelly Sinclair:

there's so many good things in there right away when you're talking about that, like, rest is lazy, isn't it interesting how, even on the weekends, right, if we decide that we're just gonna, like, chill on the couch for one day, on a day that we're technically not even supposed to be working, we're like, I'm having a lazy day. Like, such a negative association to like, I'm choosing, right? Just, it's an activity that I'm doing, you know, and like, this whole productivity and producing something, you feel like you didn't do something if you didn't, like, check off a whole list of things or achieve something. And then, you know, it's taken me a lot of therapy and stuff as well to realize that I was attaching worth to that too. And then there's, there's usually an experience that happens for people where they they hit the wall and they realize they can't carry it all right, like you were saying with your your job restructure, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the other what happens is, you said, so what are some of the markers right of this?

Mindi Huebner:

And it is that those that inner critic talking so loudly, and it's forming beliefs. So we think of thought over and over again. It becomes a belief. It becomes an I am statement. And I am statement some of the most powerful statements in the universe. We create emotions, body sensations from it, and then habits to prove it to ourselves. We are always winning the game we're playing. So how I was a champion, an Olympian at rest, being lazy like that. I that game. I won it all the time. I didn't rest. I was exhausted and burnt out. And was like, No, this is how it is. Just keep going drink some more coffee. Yeah, yeah, totally. And it's not coffee's fault. I love coffee. I still drink too much coffee, and it has nothing to do with being exhausted.

Kelly Sinclair:

Yeah, totally. I'm like that. This is the story. This is so relevant to me, too. You said hustle had to quit me first. And I had the exact same experience. I had two little kids under four years old. I was getting up at before 5am Which to me, is never a time that somebody should be awake at all and getting them dressed in and into the car, and dropping them off at childcare, at day home at 6am so that I could get to my office, which I required an entire like, go. I had a thermos and to go, mug of coffee, and so I just drank the one, refilled it. Drank the next one. Like I was like, could you just put an IV in my arm with some caffeine, please, because I don't know that if I didn't have my own experience, which podcast listeners know is that my mom passed away, that I had something that changed it for me externally, would I have done it by myself? Right? And so I'm so glad that we're having these conversations to help people identify their own situation, and to give this permission slip, because we're still in a place where somebody needs to give us permission to change something.

Mindi Huebner:

It feels that way a lot of times. And ultimately, this is yourself, right? Everyone listening, you're giving yourself permission. This is really about identifying beliefs that are holding you back, and you'll hear the term self sabotage. Oh, what I'm going to invite you to also hear is self protection, because they mean the same thing, those habits, those beliefs, those thoughts, come in through you protecting yourself to stay in your known zone, and because your subconscious wants to stay in the known, it wants to take the path of least effort. It wants to learn burn the least amount of calories possible. So we'll just keep being the human we know how to be. We'll have the thermos and the Go mug, and we'll get up at 4am and we'll write, and we'll do the things. We'll just stay here because, believe it or not, at least I know what happens here. And so there is safety in my subconscious identity for me to stay married to the hustle, for you to stay married to the hustle, right until, for in our situations, something big happened. And for everyone else that doesn't need something big to happen, you get to know right now, oh, this is you creating safety. And so you get to start flexing that subconscious identity confidence to create safety right now, in stretching your known zone in taking those small steps to literally, like, if you can see us, like, I'm pushing on a rubber band right? Like, think about your known zone. And when what you're gonna do feels like a six, seven or eight, and you're like, Oh, you're feeling some resistance. That means you're doing the thing keep going like that is you on the verge of stretching your known zone and creating more safety in your subconscious identity to be this expanded version of you, this deconditioned version of you. You're either shedding or expanding, right? We're never, at least in my work, we're never becoming. Brand new person. What we're actually doing is getting back to our authentic selves. We're shedding the conditioning, the stories, the lies, all the things that think about them all piled on top of us. And each time we release one of those, we get closer to who we truly are, to the real version of ourselves, as opposed to oh and becoming someone new. Well, yes and no, right? Like, we're not saying you need to be someone new. We're saying you get to, like, release the things keeping you from that version of you, that favorite, free, expanded version, that knows that when the resistance comes in, she gets to lean into it, that knows she's worthy of support, that knows there's a better way than the thermos and the Go cup of coffee in order to keep going.

Kelly Sinclair:

Hmm, I feel like my brain like, because it's still, it's still so conditioned. I'm like, but how like? What are the steps? What are the what are the assertions to take, right? Especially if we're actually talking about that pushing out of that known zone, sometimes the known is, is to be active and producing.

Mindi Huebner:

That's totally what it is.

Kelly Sinclair:

like, what you're saying is, and then how, how do I do less? And feel like I'm doing something like, what's that? What's in your head there?

Mindi Huebner:

Yes, so to break that down simply, first of all is awareness, right? You're always winning the game you're playing. Are you playing a game you want to win? Because this shows you how powerful you are, right? Now you can do anything. If you can get up early, do all the things that you said you did when your kids were little, right? You can certainly rest. Let me think about it that way, right, right? If you could do all those things, because I am with you, if I am up before 5am it is alone in silence with coffee, it's not there's no functioning actually happening, right? I don't want to be up that early either. You have everything you need on the inside of you, you are fully capable. You are fully worthy. The first step is awareness. Who am I being and who do I want to be? So once we step into that awareness, now, who do I want to be? Well now, now we it's essential. It's vital that we have something, some definition to look towards. Who is the woman that we are becoming or unbecoming, however you want to say it, and what is it that she has, possesses, thinks, feels, believes that I want to have, possess, think, feel, believe, so think about it like a GPS. It's essential that we know where we're going. How do you stop the conditioning? You know where you want to go from the conditioning so that you can start showing up and flexing that subconscious confidence that I that safety and your identity a little bit by a little bit by a little bit.

Kelly Sinclair:

So let's maybe, I feel like there's something, and I want to hear it in your words, because, like, kind of trying to follow and track this, you know, as a high achieving person, we're like, we're like, I have a goal, and, like, you just said, we have a perfect we're looking for a destination of where we're wanting to go. But we also still believe that that is very action oriented, right? And that there's take to do that. And if the version of me that I'm looking to become, or however we want to phrase that, is somebody who chooses rest, you know, acknowledges when they need to step back from things, has boundaries for other people. Like, how do we work those kinds of pieces in rather than like, who gets another certification and does another thing and has more clients and makes more money and buys a lake house, and like, we also want those things, right

Mindi Huebner:

exactly so the so now we're at the question of, what is success? What is my definition of success? And if I truly want to have that harmony between a line tussle, because there's, there are times, as you know, for a lined hustle, probably when you launched your podcast, right, if everyone that's listening, if they ever do a launch for a program or anything like that, have a live event, there are times for a lined hustle. It's necessary, it's vital, in order to get us where we want to go, the harmony comes in where we say, Oh, the version of me who has aligned hustle knows that in the structure that I create, I create freedom by having the structure to know when I'm going to hustle and when I'm going to rest. It is. It's not a that would be nice. It's actually first like, where are my periods of rest in now I'm going to put my aligned hustle, my launch, my to do my marketingafter I've already carved out if I truly know what success is, if I've truly defined it, and also that's a living, breathing thing for the season of your life that you're in. Like, please don't hear me say there is one version and that's it. It's for the season of life that you're in, or it's for the season, like, for some of us, moms, grandmas, summertime might be like very different season than the fall, if you have school aged kids or anything like that, right? Yeah. And so think success in a season. And then I like to reverse engineer, okay, if at the end of summer I want to have this new program launched, I want to have had two live events, and I want to have spent seven to 10 days at the beach, and I want to have like it's no different to rest as a goal than it is to achieve as a goal. You get to achieve the rest too. It's a different attachment to it. It's a knowing that in order to be the woman who then rest is is essential. It's like water for me or food. Rest is my favorite productivity tool. So if you're into tools for your productivity, like hands down, rest is the one that breeds productivity and it breeds creativity when you have the space to quiet and or like for me, rest could look like going out for a walk, like it might not be quiet and it might not be still, it might be movement. When you have that space, you have room to take the big, deep breath, like we just did. It also gives you the time to hear those things that are coming in, the stories that are saying like you can't be resting. You're supposed to be doing this to work on rewiring those beliefs. Where did I get that? Who would I be without that belief? What would allow? What would I allow in my life if I released that belief like asking better questions,

Kelly Sinclair:

I love that reframe of rest is a productivity tool, right? Because there was a time when I first started my business where I was like no, because I was used to working in a in an agency environment where we build every which track every 15 minutes of our day. And it was

Unknown:

terrible. So big, My God, my nervous system.

Kelly Sinclair:

I know it's like, the worst of like, I'm never billing hourly again. It's just horrible. And so I was like, Well, I can't work out in the middle of the day, or I can't do this, like, this is if I'm not working and like, working on a client and being paid, I'm not doing anything, but either. So there's been a lot of shifting. But I feel like what I'm hearing you say is that you get to change the story, right? This is what the subconscious piece is, is that if you currently believe this, what would it be like to just change that belief.

Mindi Huebner:

And what would it if that like going from rest is lazy to rest is my best productivity tool, and I'm going to rest more than I work. If everything in you is screaming like, what are you? Out of your mind? I can't do that. That's okay too. This is you get to call this alchemized affirmations, right? We're stair stepping. We're stretching our known zone. So a little vote cast towards rest being your productivity tool today would look like what like three months from now, it might look like you only working three days a week, like that's it, like you work three days a week and there are no ifs ands or buts. About it today it might look like you like closing the bookends on your business 10 minutes sooner and not filling that with anything like there it. It's not an all or nothing. And that's the beautiful piece you get to decide today. First of all, what would I like it to look like by when? Because we're not discounting a SMART goal. What I am saying is, in order for a SMART goal to be truly effective, it's a conscious goal you get to tie your subconscious to it, pictures, sounds, feelings, what's it going to feel like in 60 days when I have embraced rest to the level of having one solid day that my only achievement is not achieving like, what's it going to feel like? What's it going to taste like, what's it going to smell like, what's it going to sound like, what's it going to feel like, externally, as well as internally. Because internally. Internally, right? It's going to feel like a big, deep breath. It's going to feel XYZ, right? It might feel a little funny at first, like getting used to that externally, it's going to feel like my feet in the pool. It's going to feel like an ice water in my hand. It's going to feel like, well, like, what's it going to feel like? This is how you truly lock in your subconscious with your conscious, because your brain doesn't know the difference between real and imagined. So imagine it, and then start casting votes towards it. I'm not saying it's that easy, like imagine this. You know, I just got this whole I'm gonna show my age lifestyles of the rich and famous. I just heard Robin Leach's voice. I don't even know if you know if you know who that is. You're not as old as me. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, just like you imagine MTV cribs, imagine whatever that is, right? Like I'm not seeing that it is, though it does get to be as simple as I know what it looks like, tastes like, sounds like, smells like, feels like and today I can do one tiny thing. I can think one tiny thought to get me closer to what that is, because that is how your brain works. It deletes to starts and generalizes based on your beliefs. So if you believe that the only path to success is hustle, you win, and your brain will only show you hustle paths to success. It will not, it won't mess with you with the little details of, oh, look, you could actually get there with rest too.

Kelly Sinclair:

So when you're working with your clients, because I feel like, you know, like we've already discussed, that there's sometimes resistance to this being an option, right? Like, we crave it, we want it. We want to believe that's an option. But also, I'm like, but I don't know if I believe you Right. Like, how can I actually do that? Is there sort of a dipping your toe in ways to practice this? Because the other thing I heard you say, and maybe, maybe these things are connected or not, is that, you know, you can create a bit of a structure and reverse engineer like, you know, what I want for this season, what success looks like and what that feels like. But then there's also times where something hits you, like you and I have talked about and the podcast listeners know, recently I shared that I just couldn't function for like, two weeks. I was just, I needed rest, and it wasn't a thing that I planned for, but I had to allow it. And so it was almost like, Okay, now I've actually seen what happens when I really leaned into that and allowed it, and I am still seeing like, amazing things happening, which is almost a total mind fuck, because it's like, how? But how?

Mindi Huebner:

Okay. I love this question. So first you had to allow it right, like a circumstance came along. And again, everyone doesn't have to get to this place of it being forced on you. You had to allow it. And in that, you had this breakthrough moment of, oh, look at like, I actually don't have to be greasing every wheel and turning every crank and doing every single thing all the time. The stair step in that right is, what would it look like to allow it for a little bit? What would it look like to allow myself to experience this? Because here's here's the next thing, we get a little freaked out about making a decision sometimes, like you had to make that decision. It was made for you, and you went along with it. So I'm going to back up for just a second. You also had the option in that decision being made for you to fight it, kicking and screaming, believe it or not, and make it mean all kinds of disempowering things about you, about your level of emotional maturity, about your business survival, like we make meaning to things and do not revisit ever. You had enough level of expansion to not make it mean those things, and to be able to see like, wow, look what's happening around me, even though I've been really hands off kind of thing. So whatever we make it mean, that's the first thing. What are we going to make rest mean if it's thrust on us, like when we get sick or something like that, too, right? Oh, and we allow it to be an opportunity to change us, as opposed to a struggle we have to get through big difference in the parts of our brain that are lighting up and what were the neuropathways that we're creating when we think about it one way versus thinking about it the other way. So one is showing up in the Okay, here's where I am. Who do I want to be in the sea? We're right back to who do I want to be?

Kelly Sinclair:

Yes, yes.

Mindi Huebner:

I want to be the person who gets through this, right? I want to come out on the other side. I want to not worry about my business. In the meantime, I want to write and the way your RAS works, your reticular activating system, it brings you, it's another filtering system that brings you what you anticipate and what you expect. So if you anticipated and expected, right? That it would be you would not get through it, that your business would burn to the damn ground. But, like, guess what? It would have shown you. Know the difference is, some of those things actually happened when you took a rest. You just didn't make that mean anything, like you maybe canceled some calls, or did this, or that brain that's married to the hustle and says, This is going to be the worst thing ever. Would only see those and see those as burning it down. Brain that said, this is where I am, and I'm not going to make this mean whether you did that consciously or not, saw that as, oh, hey, look at like there was an opportunity. There was an opportunity. Listen, this person didn't care that I rescheduled. Like this is we make things mean something, and then don't revisit it, and that's where we get all tangled up in the disempowered beliefs and identities.

Kelly Sinclair:

Hmm, oh, I love this so much. This, it's an enlightening conversation to actually just real like what you're saying is to bring awareness to the whole pattern, right, to be able to reflect, to sort of step outside of yourself and go, like, What's the proof? What's the proof that I'm finding for this right? Like, where, in a lot of the times the proof you find, like you said, I love so many of like, there's so many good little snippets in here. Like, you always win the game you're playing. Do you want to play a game? You do want to play this game? Like, is this game you're going to win? Yeah? Oh, I just, I think it's so empowering, like the choice that we have.

Mindi Huebner:

oh, we started to say that too, and I my brain, right, right decision. So we also have decision versus choice, because decision can feel heavy and and like it's a really big deal for some people, not everyone. For those of you that you're like, oh, making a I'm so I'm indecisive. I have a terrible time making a decision, I'm going to invite you to think of it as making a choice, experiencing the choice, and then making another choice. Think about the choices that you make all day long, once they're technically decisions. However, we don't have to call them decisions. We could just call them choices, right? Am I having? Well, I didn't make a choice here. I was gonna say, am I having water or a smoothie? I'm having both, along with a sparkling water on my desk.

Kelly Sinclair:

I always sell three beverages.

Mindi Huebner:

So I made some choices. I'm experiencing all the choices, right? And when they're all empty, I'll make another choice to refill one of them. It really takes that pressure off of us to just experience a choice and know, okay, here's the experience. Now I'm gonna make this choice. So I'm inviting everyone to experience the choice of rest. Define rest for yourself. Define success for yourself, and what I call 24 karat success, right? That's that true freedom, that authentic alignment, so that you can be casting the baby votes all day long. See my my most successful, 24 karat version of myself. She is a hydrated queen. I can be her right now because I drink water all day long, like I already know how to be her, and I just get to keep being her and keep casting those votes. What else do I know that she does that I mostly do go to bed on time. What else do I know that she does like that, that next level version of us.

Kelly Sinclair:

A lot of it's right here. Can you actually break some of this down too? Because in the conversation about success, we so often are just just thinking about the category of like, in when we're business owners of what is my business? Yeah, what is success in my business? How many clients do I have? How much money do I make? How often do I have to work in like, we just live in that little wheel of or that little section of the pie. But like, when you're working with your clients, what are the other categories and sort of areas like you just mentioned, hydration and sleep like and I know these things are all important, and we we do know them. We forget that because we exactly thing. So maybe just break that down a little.

Mindi Huebner:

Yes, I love this question because I coach highly successful, ambitious women in business, and I'm not a business coach. I coach the human who wants to show up in her business, but it's the human who is showing up in the business. So what does the human need to be the most successful in whatever hat she's wearing, whatever identity she's walking in in that moment? And that is where you get to ask yourself, like, what wouldsuccessful sleep hygiene look like? What would it look like to be hydrated and what would that mean? What would it mean if I drank eight ounce glasses of water a day, like, what would mean my skin would be here? This is proof, because I do it, maybe my skin would look better. I drink, drank at least eight, eight ounce glasses of water a day. Here's what happens in your brain when you're hydrated. So we've all had, most of us have had the gross, dried out sponge on the edge of the sink. Okay, that's your brain when you don't hydrate it, because your body doesn't make water, like we gotta give it water, and it's made up of water, so the more you're giving to it, that exactly take a drink of water. Think of your brain like being all nice and gorgeous and plump, like the sponge when you get it wet. That's truly what's happening to your brain, and it's making your joints move better. So what happens when your joints move better? You move easier? Well, guess what else really supports being, like, a knock it out of the park, high achieving woman in business, moving your body because you want mobility, right? Like, ultimately, we're going to get older and we want to be able to be mobile, so having lubricated joints by staying hydrated, like all of these dots when you start connecting them. So how do I want to feel would be a great question to ask, as opposed to, what do I want to do? What do I want to accomplish? How do I want to feel okay, if I want to feel rested, if I want to feel strong, if I want to feel empowered, okay, if I want to feel rested, well, then I'm going to look at what time I go to bed and what time I get up in the morning. And if I want to feel strong, then I'm going to look at what am I putting in my body. How am I moving my body? For me, definition of strong is lifting weights, like if I want to feel empowered, what am I doing? And what we didn't say is, what am I not doing if I want to feel empowered? One of the things I am doing is feeding my mind and my energy empowered things. So I'm listening to subconscious reprogramming and brain priming and meditations that allow me to create the container for success. I'm not getting sucked into the black hole of social media for hours and hours and hours at a time, because that disempowers me. It just does. There's no way around it. Steals my energy, steals my focus. Like really, think of your subconscious also as an algorithm, like on like a social media algorithm. The more you're looking at what's your brain doing, deleting, distorting and generalizing, like your razz is, what are you anticipating? Expecting to see more garbage, to see more shit, okay, like, then you what happens. You absorb it. So thinking about those things, how do I want to feel? And then, okay, if I want to feel this way, who am I feeling that way? Like, what's possible for me when I feel that way, starts with awareness. It starts with checking in for yourself, and you can get really basic with it. I talk to clients about relationships like, like, not just so mindset is our relationship with a thing. When we talk about a mindset to something so that could be our relationship with time, money, wealth, aging, our voice on video, like any of that kind of stuff, right? Our identity is our repeated way of beingness. So they are very different. However, they're kissing cousins, like you can't get away from one without the other. They're following each other around. And so knowing our relationship with something is vital to rewiring that relationship so that we can show up safely, quote, unquote, in our subconscious identity. I had a client who really wanted to hit a million dollars in her business, and she had given the meaning of hitting a million dollars that then she had to give up the very minimal hours she worked in her business. So she she had to, there was a loss in it. She had to give up her authentic self, because in order to be that level of entrepreneur, and she was close, this was a story she told herself, right? Like she's a brilliant woman. We all do this in order to be that level of entrepreneur, she was going to have to be inauthentic. She's gonna have to look a certain way and sound a certain way. And these were just decisions that her brain made just like that without rethinking them. It took 120 minute laser session, because that's how I work with my clients, for us to die. Into it and release it within three months, she hit a million dollars revenue in her business three months from basically releasing one limiting belief about who she could be and her relationship with what it meant to make a million bucks like it meant all lost. So why would she ever go for it? And she'd stay in the known zone, right? She was winning the game. She was playing. Oh, that means loss so. And here we are, right back at self protection, which is also known as self sabotage. Self Protection, She's protecting herself from all the loss that was going to come from being that version of herself. Therefore she could not see that that wasn't a real story, that it didn't have to be that way,

Mindi Huebner:

Right, right? Oh my gosh, this is this has definitely come all full circle. It's been motivating, empowering, such a good reminder to just take stock and ask yourself these questions. Like to check in, to bring awareness to the things that you want and don't want, outside of just the small, little container that you don't see how these dots are connected, because they very much all are

Mindi Huebner:

exactly, exactly. And I have condensed all this down into a free resource even more, like more steps, like the seven keys to success, more steps that you can take to really rewire and release this conditioning in my private podcast the Unlock Your 24 Karat Success Private Podcast, and I know we'll have a link in the show notes. If you're on Instagram DME podcast, you can find me @Mindhuebner, and I will send you the link.

Mindi Huebner:

I would love everyone to remember that when you allow yourself to focus on creating sustainability and aligned action, right? Because we're gonna action is required. Yeah, we're not. When I crack the code on sitting and with my hands out and a million bucks dropping, and I'll let everyone know until then, right? What we're working for and expanding into an embodiment of is sustained, aligned ways of being and that is available to you. And the only thing stopping it is the subconscious programming playing behind the scenes. And it truly is the only thing stopping it now it's a big thing because it takes work to undo and unravel that however, it literally is one thing that's stopping you from everything that you want and you deserve to step into that more empowered, like literally stepping over a line.

Kelly Sinclair:

Yes, well, I hope that everybody got as much out of this conversation as I did. So thank you so much for being here. Mindi.

Mindi Huebner:

Thank you. Thank you for having me. It was amazing.